Part 1
Awesome Adam logs in.
5 seconds later …
[nobhead1] hey mate, can you link me your enchanting?
[AA]: [enchanting]
[nobhead1] I just got this, [some weapon]. what would be a good enchant for it?
[AA]: I have no idea, I don’t play your class. Do your research and get back to me.
[nobhead1]: kk, lol.
I do a few things then log on to my bank alt, then log back to my main. 5 seconds later …
[nobhead1]: hey bro, can you link me your enchanting again?
[AA]: [enchanting]
[nobhead1]: I want [beserking]. Where are you?
[AA]: Dalaran. That will be 25 gold if you have the mats.
[nobhead1]: haha, lol, you’re sick for gold, you are, lol.
[AA]: It will be 50g if you keep that up.
[nobhead1]: Come on, 25g? I’ll give you 10, a good deal.
[AA]: I tell you what, you go and buy it off the AH for 650g, how does that sound?
[nobhead1]: Ok, well it’s just cause I give my stuff to people I know for free, cause that’s how i am, but if that’s what you want to do, then I suppose you can do what you want, lol, right.
[AA]: Does that mean you want the enchant or not?
[nobhead1]: yeah, getting mats, will get back to you.
Time passes …
[nobhead1]: lol, soz can u link enchanting again?
[AA]: [enchanting]
[nobhead1]: OK, i want the enchant and will pay your 20g fee.
[AA]: Nice try, it’s 25g.
[nobhead1]: kk, thx, see ya, bye.
[trade] Nobhead1: LF enchanter.
[AA]: /ignore.
Part 2
[Trade] NObhead 2: lfjc
(This goes on for about 15 minutes until he gets a bit frustrated,)
[Trade]Nobhead2: LFJC!!!
[AA]: [jewelcrafting] 25g a cut.
5 minutes go by with no response, then …
[nobhead2]: Can you link JC again?
[AA]: [jewelcrafting]
[nobhead2]: you don’t have the cut i want 
[AA]: Oh well, what a shame.
5 minutes go by …
[Nobhead2]: can you link jc?
[AA]: [jewelcrafting]
[Nobhead2]: Oh, you do have my cut i want [some fucking jewel like i give a shit]
[AA]: 25g for that cut.
[Nobhead2]: I’ll give you 15g
[AA]: You can keep your 15g and go back to spamming trade again.
[Nobhead2]: lol, come on bro, it’s free for you to do.
[AA]: I change my mind about spamming trade. Go level JC instead.
[NObhead2]: 16g
[AA]: I tell you what. I’m going to the AH to put one of these up at a really nice price, you can get it there.
[Nobhead2]: But i have mats!
[AA]: Oh well.
I go to AH and list it for 175g.
5 minutes go by …
[Nobhead2]: You piece of shit. ok I’ll give you 25g for the cut.
[AA]: /ignore.
May 19, 2010 at 8:13 am
So many retarded people ingame. :p
May 19, 2010 at 8:34 am
Great stories about M&S.
I just don’t get the last line. He finally was ready to pay up. Why did you ignored him instead of taking the gold? Just because he expressed a bad opinion about you?
May 19, 2010 at 8:37 am
Good observation, and now I look at it a mistake on my own part. Sometimes they just wear you down I suppose.
May 19, 2010 at 3:15 pm
If somebody wanted to call me a piece of shit, I’d charge 50g
May 19, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Why not ignore him? I would have. Is Adam so broke as to actually need another 25g from some random shithead? Is that 25g worth validating nobhead2′s shitheadedness and ever-so-goddamn-present sense of entitlement?
Hell, I would have /ignored this particular M&S at
‘[Nobhead2]: I’ll give you 15g’
Why waste time chasing the trivial gold of idiots like nobheads 1&2 unless you’re dead broke? You don’t need them, they need you. And if they want what you have, they can damned well behave in a manner acceptable to you and be happy to do so.
May 19, 2010 at 4:08 pm
eh, I don’t have a problem with a counter offer. I don’t bother for something like this, especially if I’ve been spamming trade for 15 minutes and finally found somebody.
But “c’mon bro’, it’s free for you to do.” is enough that I don’t really care whether I cut this guys gem anymore. I probably don’t ignore him most of the time here, but I could.
If you counter, and the guy stays with his price, the acceptable responses are “nty, then” or “ok 25″.
May 19, 2010 at 8:57 am
i p*ssed myself… again… love your blog!!
and pls… keep up the work… me needs something to read at work!
May 19, 2010 at 10:16 am
“You piece of shit. ok I’ll give you 25g for the cut.”
Such nice people
Did he buy your cut off the AH in the end ?
May 19, 2010 at 10:21 am
Last time I PvPed much on my rogue – and this is mid-BC era – shadowstep maces was at least pretty decent. I know they removed the lolstun on maces, but is non-dagger subtlety not still workable?
May 19, 2010 at 10:23 am
aaaaaah I loved those maces haha they should have left them as they were
May 19, 2010 at 6:14 pm
This was meant to be on the previous post. <__>
May 19, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Some people can make a subt/assa build without daggers work. But it has a lot less potential in arena. You’re best bet is to get ân easier arena setup (Spriest/rogue for instance) and try to faceroll to 1800.
As in pve, skill can get you a long way. In my old battleground the real competition started at 2k+. You’ll meet the occasional team decked in pve epics but those dont pose a real threat to most double dps teams as you can wtfpwn them before they recover while blowing your own CDs to stay alive.
I got lucky on my old realm and managed to get Heartpiercer before transferring to the ganking guild ^^
May 19, 2010 at 2:43 pm
The best things in life are free, like mocking people who seem to put in an active effort to not think.
May 19, 2010 at 3:22 pm
well, i see what you try to do, you attempt to be reasonable, but your def. of reasonable is quite different to other’s quite frankly, in both of those issues you were a jerk. Is wow gold really that precious to you? its easiest to make gold on the AH sir, and if u cant cuz you xferd to a terrible server on purpose, don’t bitch about it. I used to enjoy your posts.
May 19, 2010 at 3:30 pm
How exactly was he a jerk there? He clearly defined the prices and linked his skills on multiple occasions. Far more patient than most people would be, I think.
May 19, 2010 at 4:20 pm
How is Adam a jerk here? He has a price at which he is willing to perform a service. The appropriate response to having a different definition of “reasonable price” is not patronize the person in question.
It’s Adam’s interlocutors here who want to demand that another person adopt their personal definition of reasonable.
I don’t go to the mall and berate the manager of Brookstone for selling overpriced garbage. If I did, I’d probably get a well deserved visit from mall security. Is this the sort of thing you consider reasonable?
/ignore is like calling security.
“Ba-Bai nao! HTH! HAND!”
May 19, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Interesting. I see part 1 as a pretty ordinary negotiation which happened to end in no deal. He tries to persuade you to lower your price and when he fails, he goes back to Trade in search of a deal he likes better. This is more like a swap meet than a bookstore in the mall.
I replied to a request a while ago. The guy wanted an enchant I had but he was in Darnassus while I was in Ironforge. He had offered to tip but I wasn’t going to go all that way without agreeing on an amount up front. As it turned out, the fee I wanted including travel was what he intended to tip so it should have been a deal. But somehow me being upfront about a fee made the deal not worth it to him. I wonder if, by spelling out the terms of the deal, I’d robbed him of the chance to appear generous.
May 19, 2010 at 7:10 pm
1)Sorry all the disagreeding people above. This is how business works. Time=money
2) From the language those “customers” used i suppose they are 10-16 year old that don’t think at all (“lol, it’s free to make” -> NO!-> You waste travel time + burning HS+ lvling professions)
3) I wouldn’t ignore them. Server pop is low so every customer is quite valuable (money is all what metters). Besides from language/converstion they used i can conclude they change their mind every 5 sec
May 19, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Agree and disagree.
1) Time=Value whether you value money or not is your own call. It could be argued that the value is in the ability to cut gems for yourself rather than buy them as well as the gems that only a JC can use.
2) Rather generalised, lack of thinking isn’t exclusively the preserve of the young.
3) Agree, ignoring lowers your potential market.
May 20, 2010 at 5:19 am
Ignoring does limit your market but in these cases I’ll take the loss. I’m suprised at the number of comments and strong reactions for what I thought was a throwaway fluff piece. You can never pick it in this blogging world.
May 19, 2010 at 7:13 pm
P.S. I would make a macro:
/r Cut(enchant) cost X gold. This includes: leveling profession + travel time + burning HS
May 21, 2010 at 3:04 pm
It’s all about perception. The market reality is that you have a monopoly, and you’re well within your rights to charge whatever the supply and demand would warrant. If, however, you never reply to trade spam but keep the AH stocked, buyers won’t associate you with the negative effects of a seller’s market on their pocketbook.
If you don’t want to have to argue and barter, you never have to
May 23, 2010 at 12:32 am
There is a certain kind of player responding to is just a waste of time: s/he spams tradechat from Stormwind looking for a jewelcrafter/enchanter/blacksmith whatever but does not say in the spam what s/he wants to have. 9 out of 10 times this person has no materials for it and wastes 20 minutes buying them from AH and logging through characters.
I actually once ran a 5man heroic with my blacksmith and after that the person still hadn’t everything.
The guys who know what they want but still spamming from Stormwind I tell “20g fee for the cut in Dalaran or 60g if I have to go to SW”
May 25, 2010 at 3:54 pm
I don’t get it. Two parties negotiate a transaction. One is naive and incompetent. The other is a bit of a dick. What’s the point exactly?