The best way to do something that you are not sure about doing is to just do it and then afterwards have a good cry if you think you have made a serious fucking mistake. Or hire a good lawyer. I don’t need a lawyer and I haven’t had a good cry … yet. You see, yesterday I deleted fully maxed 450 enchanting with a stack of Vanilla and BC enchants on my main. I’d been deliberating on it for weeks. And once again I found myself deliberating when I just thought, fuck it. And I pressed the delete button and it said, ‘what the fuck? Are you sure??’, and I said yes and then it was all over.
Whoah.
I’ve had enchanting on my main since the beginning. I suppose apart from my hearthstone that this profession was the last original thing remaining. And I just blew it off like Suzzie McTavish used to do for us at year 10 parties. Oh well. And what have I dumped it for? Engineering. Which was not funny when a guidie jumped in chat literally 5 minutes after I performed the dumping and informed us that he had dumped engineering because it was useless. Aww fuck, don’t say things like that.
I haven’t taken engineering yet, I took mining. I want to gather up the resources to power level it in one day, and there is a serious lack of raw mining mats on the AH. No saronite or cobalt ore yesterday. And common wrath gems going for stupidly high prices. So I’m running around Westfall and Duskwood doing some gathering. And you know what? It’s nice, I’m enjoying it. I like grabbing a new profession like mining and taking it up. You get to run around and see all the old content again. Say hello to old friends, and then kill them if they get in the way of your mining nodes. What the hell is it with aggro radius and nodes? I can walk right through any of these level 15 mobs without them even glancing in my direction, but as soon as I hit a node they come running to attack me from miles away. Hello? If you wanted the node why didn’t you just take it yourself? Now I have to fan of knives you all to the deaths.
I reinstalled gatherer and it still had all my old data! Sweet! So a mining we will go. We jumped into ICC last night for the first run with the new guild, and I got a nice chest drop for a measley 1700gold which is a huge upgrade over my old piece of twaddle. There were a few drops that nobody wanted though and before I knew it the raid leader had given them to me to disenchant.
Erm … there’s something that I haven’t told you guys is there …
June 18, 2010 at 8:05 am
Engineering is quite funny IMHO: there’s lot of stuff to have a good laugh with, starting from the trinket which summon a “fighting” kitchen pet… i had this since the beginning, and feel confident to suggest you since it’s a recommended profession for a Rogue and has a lot of BiS upgrade for your gear (gloves, boots and cloak).
On the other hand, i didn’t find many ways to get rich with engineering: apart from arrows and bullets there simply isn’t much to sell… but you can get good income if you collect the recipe for the engineering-made vanity pet, which are a real evergreen.
What is your other profession? I started and leveled until 80 with engineering – mining (quite a noobish choice, i know… well, I really am a noob anyway!), then switched to *whisper* engineering – enchanting: i could stand no more having to sell my old purples since i couldn’t shard them, and having to sell all BoP i collected for the same reason… so i’m curious, what did you keep while leaving Enchanting?
June 18, 2010 at 8:17 am
Jewelcrafting, which is my main money maker.
June 18, 2010 at 8:45 am
You dropped Ench to have engineering? You can start crying. I mean it.
Or just keep mining up to Cataclysm and drop it then, when you see the state of professions in Cata. Mining is a good “free income” spec if you don’t farm, just mine the nods that get to your way while doing whatever.
June 18, 2010 at 10:51 am
Engineering is a great profession in that it is fun as hell and works well with the rogue class via the bombs etc.
You still can make a lot of gold with it via pets and to a lesser extent ammo for huntards but for me its the little fun things that makes engineering the best prof
June 18, 2010 at 10:53 am
Hi adam, just a small help (if you dont already know), you should install gathermate that will allow you to load all the nodes from wowhead, making a bit easier to farm if you go into a area you never been before.
Also you could use routes to create a single route where it goes by every possible position for a node based on gather data, making the farming for profitable in terms of time.
Good Luck farming XD
June 18, 2010 at 11:14 am
I would say engineering is far from useless. There are some choice items that you can sell on the AH. Not for huge profit, but a little something if you’ve got the spare mats hanging around.
The mains joys of Engineering come from the little things as others have said. I’ll describe some of the ones I think a rogue would love.
-22Agi enchant for cape with a built in parachute on a 1 min cooldown.
-Ranged attack on 1 min cooldown attached to gloves.
Bonuses for everyone.
-AH access in Dalaran.(This is for everyone but I love it that much)
-Goggles Goggles Goggles. usually you can get a really nice epic set of goggles long before you hit level cap and they will last you until then and longer.
The main disadvatage I can see from engineering is it seems to lack the multitude of stat boosts you get from all the others.
BS: You get two extra gem slots.
LW: You can get 100 stamina on bracers.stamina.
ENCH: Ring Enchants
JC: The 3 gems you get with much larger stat increases.
etc…
Engineering just has a lot of 1 min cooldown boosts. Like a 20 second haste increase or 45 stamina added to your head slot, but it’s useless at 80 with the rep head enchants.
Take engineering for fun and a small DPS increase with it added to your regular rotation.
June 18, 2010 at 11:43 am
“I would say engineering is far from useless.”
just look at all the funky shit! for battlegrounds and openpvp its the shit²! bombs are a littlebit tricky while raiding but not useless. its just not the prof for getting rich.
sidenode:
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11707-GathererDBWoWHead.html
just import this into gatherer and you are done.
June 18, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Engineer is on of the best professions for any dps class, anyone saying the opposite needs to do a bit of research. Even there are a few niches in the market, for profit in the AH, but these will not result in a massive return of gold.
June 18, 2010 at 7:08 pm
I value the extra utility from engineering most. Nitro boosts in your boots literally move you faster than a land mount, Jeeves lets you access your bank from anywhere every hour, MOLL-E helps when trolling the AH and you feel too lazy to walk all the way to the mailbox, and the AH in Dalaran is invaluable.
June 18, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Never tried engineering, what’s it for ?
Fan of knives – I always get a deep, deep satisfaction using it on murlocs that once made me so frustrated I’d have to gnaw my own arm off, suffer you little bastards.
June 18, 2010 at 10:45 pm
as a JCer / engineer er myself (dropped alchemy a while back for engineering and before that herbalism for JCing, more power to yah, engineering is a beautifully fun,fantastic profession. It doesn’t really have any money making capabilities to speak of, excepting the hunter ammo (which i cant use, damn bloodsail admiral title) and the chopper if you have above 16k gold to make and then sell it for a tone of money, but the wonderful fun things like the parachute cloak and rocket boots more than make up for it in my opinion. Besides, JC’ing makes a ton of money alone.
June 19, 2010 at 12:49 am
If the raid took a rogue with Mining profession… your Raid Leader is either bad or lazy.
A good Raid leader has an alt of each class, maximized for raiding, and knows the optimal talents/professions/glyphs you’re SUPPOSED to have, and inspects you accordingly.
An acceptable Raid leader is one who isn’t fully versed in class mechanics, but at least knows the benefits of specs to a raid, and has addons that tell you wether the raider flasked during the fight or not, and kicks accordingly.
A lazy Raid Leader (ie. Gevlon) is overall uninterested in wether you’re doing things right or not, cannot be bothered even inspecting your spec/glyphs via WoW Armory or your experience at Pugchecker.com, and is instead operating on TRUST. He’s trusting that you know what you’re doing, and you did everything you’re *supposed* to do during the fight. As far as they’re concerned, a rogue is a rogue. If you have one, bases covered! Trust the player! God bless deregulation! Let people police themselves!
Sorry, but the fact that you got into an ICC raid as a Mining Rogue astounds me.
June 19, 2010 at 3:15 am
No, what you described is a terrible raid leader. A good leader takes good players and leads them to bosskills.
A good player with Mining is worth more than 2 “min/maxers” who can’t tell their anus from their mouth.
June 19, 2010 at 4:43 am
Wauw, we should organise a trolling contest.
P.S. I didnt know that raidleader ignores players who don’t have +60AP .Must be a gamebreaking mechanic i havnt heard before.
June 19, 2010 at 7:42 am
Actually, Karadan is being very trollish and this is his last chance before he gets the ban hammer.
June 21, 2010 at 11:46 am
so… basicly your raidleader needs to be a no-lifer… with no work… 29/7 online… and must have a background in espionage. maybe stasi or fsb or cia.
yeah… sounds like fun raiding with you…
we only accept guildapplications with criminal record, birth certificate, you have to be unemployed (schooldropouts who dont live by their parents anymore are welcome too), single, accountname and password, horoscope, medical certificate, you have to install our guildkeyloggingsoftware and wear a gps tracker all the time, blabla…
mining? no invite cause of mining? yeah… cause icc is sooooo hardcore and gevs project is/was soooooo uberhardcorepve orientated…
we all know that icc is not doable without a gs of over 9000 and perfect gems, profs, hairstyling…
June 21, 2010 at 1:27 pm
A general knowledge of class mechanics is an advantage in raid leading and karadan does have a point in that it’s not THE min max proffesion. I know with my guild and our high competition for rogue spots it would be a sticking point were there to be an application. But we’re assholes for that kind of thing – I get shit for keeping skinning instead of levelling JC.
But to suggest you shouldn’t be in ICC with a gathering prof is retarded. I suggest you post your armory Karadan, as I’m sure we could all pick holes in it.