I didn’t post last week due to playing some Civ V. I wanted to get some decent time on it before writing a review, which I have done. And the more I played the more a terrible realisation dawned in my brain. Something that is so alien to me, so against all my video game virtues, I felt that I simply had to push it to the side. But I cannot ignore it any longer.
Civ V is not fun.
There, I’ve said it. And this coming from someone who has purchased every Civ game ever immediately on release. I have them all, every box set. I even purchased the box set for this one, (more on that later). It is my number one favourite game of all time. And yet, it’s just not happening for me. They threw the civ book out the window for the fifth installment in the series. And if you compare it with CivIV it is a completely different game in so many ways. Which I am fine with. I have no problem with that, if I want to play CivIV I can load up CivIV. And there are some great improvements in Civ V. The biggest change is no more stacks of doom. Only one military unit can occupy a hex. This has made making war actually strategic and not just a production race. Which is a shame seeing as the AI has about as much strategic sense as my cat, (which is dead).
I’m not going to go into all the technical details of the changes here, you can find that in a bunch of other places. It just feels like we are playing the Beta version of the game. Why isn’t it fun? Well, a huge reason is the fact that the further you get into the game, the longer the time you have to wait between turns for the AI to get through all its bits. This might have something to do with all the city states that are now present, as well as all the civilations, (and before you ask me the obvious, yes, I have a very powerful gaming computer. I built it from scratch with a mate who has a gaming rig shop. My rig is the super powerful awesome rig that gives me 100fps in Dalaran). We are talking around 20 to 30 seconds between turns by the time you get to about the year 1700. This is excruciating in its slowness. I spend most of my time just waiting for the computer to finish saying ‘please wait’ so I can press the enter button again. I am sure that they will eventually sort this out, but as it is now it just sucks. Either I stop playing at this time and start a new game, or I only play on very small maps, something which I never, ever do.
They got a lot of things right with this release. For example, one of the huge problems of previous titles was the fact that there were very few turns between giant technological leaps. So you would discover gunpowder, and get your muskateer as the French, only to be staring down the barrel of some panzers a few turns later. This has been fixed in Civ V. Lots of things have been fixed, too many to list here. But it still isn’t fun. Why …?
I don’t know. That’s the frustrating thing. I’m not over Civ, I’ve been playing CivIV Beyond the Sword for months now. But this version is just lame-ass. For one thing it is way too easy. Winning on Prince is a snore. But maybe I do know why it sucks. I think that Firaxis got greedy. They wanted to expand Civ and introduce it to all the casual gamers out there. So they reduced everything down to its very basics so the drooling retards could play it. But this is a strategic game. If you do that then what are you left with? Fuck all, that’s what. There are no choices here, no deep ones anyway. This was the highest ever selling simulation franchise, and I think they fucked with it just to sell more units. They were never ever going to sell more units than they already were. The geek simulation crowd is maxed out baby. But they tried anyway. And it shows.
One more thing. Amazon? Are you listening to me? Firaxis too, are you there? Yeah? Good. So go fuck yourselves, seriously. I ordered this from Amazon so I could have that one thing most dear to Civ fanatics everywhere – The Civ Manual. That big book that you take with you to bed when you are finally able to drag yourself away from the computer. So you can flick through it at your leisure and get even more Civ. And what did I get? A plastic case with no manual and a computer disk that had no game on it. I had to download it from steam anyway. So I waited 5 days for nothing. And the manual? In PDF form, which I would have to print out. In colour too. Thanks a lot, I don’t have a laser printer. And I can see myself taking all those printed pages to bed and ‘flicking’ through them. Seriously, go fuck yourselves you cheap arse wankers.
October 11, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Your drooling retard theory would carry more weight if it didn’t already have difficulty settings which can trivialize the game. I give more weight to the “still in beta but someone needed revenues now” theory.
October 11, 2010 at 6:49 pm
I’ve never played Civ but your review made me laugh, thanks. I suspect I’m not going to start with Civ V but maybe I’ll have a go at IV and see what I can do with it.
If V improves with patches (do they do that ?) let us know.
October 11, 2010 at 7:28 pm
I love Civ5 so far, I only joined the Civ craze during 4 though. The only thing that irks me is that you can’t window mode it anymore. Whenever I do, it acts like alt+tab when I move to another task on my PC.
I don’t really want to rub it in but I read the manual on my kindle at night
October 11, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Maybe if they needed cash now, They should’ve called JG Wentworth instead of releasing this game.
October 12, 2010 at 6:59 am
Your last paragraph sums up what is wrong with a lot of games these days – cheap design flaws/shit left out. I miss the days where you could buy a great out-of-the-box game that didn’t need downloads and patches to make it work.
A primes example of this was when Warhammer Online was released in Aus. This game was hyped to the moon and back and I was pretty excited to finally get my copy home and out of the box. The only problem was that the Australian version shipped with a bug that meant it wouldn’t launch… at all. I spent a good 2 hours yelling at my screen before I finally found out about the bug and the patch fix on a random forum about 6 pages into a google search. The fucking WAR website didn’t even mention it!
Anyway, back to the point I agree some game developers are cheap arse wankers!
October 12, 2010 at 7:34 am
I feel your pain.
I have shelved my Civ5 already. It is just no fun, the depth is gone in my opinion and it feels like this version that they made for the consoles.
It is all preety and I love the unit stacking change but the immersion is not there and it feels way to easy.
Hope it changes with the patches, but tbh i doubt it. Well, back to WoW and Championshio Manager
October 12, 2010 at 11:21 am
one word:
mods!
now let it rest for hmmm… lets say a month or 5. its not finished and i dont think that “they” will do it. its now up to the community and i bet that they will fix it! same with civ 2… and in my opinion civ 4.
October 12, 2010 at 11:37 am
Please not that Civ IV – Beyond the Sword was released a year after the original Civ IV. So I simply wait for “Civ V – Beyond the Sword”.
October 14, 2010 at 7:26 pm
I’ve tried to play Civ 5 and haven’t managed to get beyond something like 150 turns. It’s just missing that immersive something for me. So, I start over and play another 100 turns and quit. I want to like it as much as the previous versions but I just don’t.
October 20, 2010 at 6:50 am
I dont know man I really dont. My blog review of this was a while ago and was shorter but said same thing: Its been dumbed down for all the dumb fucks who couldnt be arsed learning to play it. Its like playing the xbox version “civ revolutions”.
@ Asa what its missing its depth, something to do other then hit enter and wait 8 turns for the next tech.
October 30, 2010 at 5:38 pm
I know that misery enjoys company so I am sorry I am about to say this. I love Civ 5 very much. I did not like Civ 3 and 4 was better but I like 5 very much in the same way I liked Civ 2. I have only been trying to master Cultural Victory, which I found hard at first but I got better so am trying to see if I can do it at harder difficulty and with different Civs. When I get bored of that I can try the other types of victory. Only thing I am sad about is the number of available civs. You know they made the list short on purpose so that we feel more need to buy the xpac. But anyways I love all the improvements to the game, making it more streamlined and no more unit stacks. I love the way that Civ feels like the real world, how everybody exploits everybody else until they have no use for them any longer. It’s a beautiful thing.