The PuG has downed its second boss in the new raid, which is a great achievemnt at this stage. The problem that Gevlon is having is finding DPS to fill raid spots. Tanks and healers we have in abundance, but geared DPS are hard to find. There are a few reasons for this that I believe I have identified.
A tank has instant queue times in heroic 5 mans. Healers have to wait a little bit longer, but not that much. The wait for a DPS is around 40 minutes. Lets say that you wait those 40 minutes and then get into a bad group that falls apart or that kick you for asking them to actualy play properly. Now you’re back to another 40 minute wait. With gear from justice points requiring about 7 heroic runs each to obtain, this is a bit of a problem. Now I know that rep grinding and buying gear can help you to fill gear slots, but the fact remains that tanks and healers have had a much better time of it with regards to getting gear. Which is why there are so many more of them ready to raid at this early stage.
A normal reaction now would be to tell the DPS to forget pugging 5 mans and organise guild runs. However, with Gevlon’s awesome idea of reducing the difficulty of heroics by taking 2 healers and 2 DPS, he reduced the possibility of DPS getting on guild runs by 33%. If guilds need DPS on their raids at this early stage then I think they are going to have to start running DPS through the heroics that they need for the items they are seeking. And obviously those pesky tanks should maybe not roll need on DPS gear for their offspec …
January 7, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Actually it’s not a gear problem. 333 is not significantly worse than 346. Also the 352 PvP gear with 4p set bonus is pretty nice.
It’s more like enchant/gem and skill problem. Most DD just did not get use to that it’s not “AoE them down” WotLK.
January 8, 2011 at 12:08 am
I done pulled up the sheets on a dozen dps-specced members of yer guild at random. Every single one of them had average gear levels of 340 or better. Whatevers yer issue findin’ dps’ers is, it ain’t what they ain’t gettin’ gear.
Did see a lotta empty sockets though.
January 8, 2011 at 7:51 am
If I may so so, If you checked my armoury you would see I am “poorly” geared. A mixtured of 346 and 333, I am wearing pvp shoulders (yes I know) and using the vicous gladiators xbow. While its all gemmed and enchanted, I am wearing a belt buckle, I got all this pretty rapidly in the first 2 weeks of wrath it seems like and I stopped doing hcs. Thats right, 6 hour wipe fests that are ulitmate failures because after 6 hours, on the third wipe to the final boss all 4 other party members quit and I can no longer get more people via the lfg. I have to leave too. So I simply quit doing hcs. The queue and the grief isnt worth my time.
That said I do and contiune to do consistantly more dps then any of the other hunters I meet in guild runs/pugs to barradin hold including some with way better gear that they didnt gem and enchant properly. I put my success and 16k dps down to:
A) I have always been a survival hunter, these ex-marksman dont have the rotations ground down to instinct level the way I do and while they are thinking about not clipping the lock and loads and where the focus for a black arrow is coming from, I am thinking about how to move from the fire and is that add going for the healer? yep ok drop a talented snake trap in front of it to slow it and target switch to it…
b) my talents gems enchants and reforging such as they are all intelligent and suitable.
I dont think you can over estimate the value of knowing your class and keeping up to date with the current theory on it.
Ps I should note I do meet better hunters then I from occasion. couple of days ago, a worgen hunter wearing the arenamaster title wiped the floor with me twice. I went and made an alt on his realm and asked him in a polite /w if he wouldnt mind giving me some tips when he had 5 mins. The result was extremely profitable my end and very much appreciated.
January 10, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Yeah the problem is DPS is spoiled now, where it was a race to blow things up in Wrath, you have to think a little bit, and survive. I think it’s more of a skill issue.